large and small should be unequivocal in working to have a transfer mode of the ship to a low carbon economy. >> what you think of the whole movement? and'm glad young people others are seeing the need to bring home. we can no longer investing companies that are part of the problem of the climate shocks we are suffering from. i speak openly and encouraged students and colleges to be part little bit like the energy behind the anti- apartheid movement when i was a student. we were all involved because we saw the injustice of it. there is an injustice in continuing to invest in fossil fuel companies that are part of the problem. my foundation has joined with an institute of the declaration of, justice. --, justice. climate justice. there's no point in going to the arctic and looking for new fossil reserves. >> i just gave the commencement address at hamsher college, which is one of the centers of this issue of divestment. , now president of hamsher college? >> yes, i know him and i am aware he is organizing a conference next year on the divestment issue. i think it is great for somebody who is